max ferris, john layfield along with john tobacco and steve murphy. welcome, everybody. president obama expected to tout the health care law in his state of the union on tuesday, but john, you say this law isn't doing anything, but making america sicker? >> yeah, brenda. i mean, after years, literally the last three years, barack obama's been telling americans, you won't lose your doctor, if you like your health insurance, you can keep your health insurance, now post-election, surprise! 7 million americans, the numbers are going higher. the cbo reports the dollars continue to go higher and really what it comes down to, we cannot afford this. small businesses can't afford to keep medicating their people and keeping them insured and at the end of the day this is just another sign of big government coming in with big plans that us, the taxpayers, just can't afford. >> well, steve, does it matter that we're losing employer-based health care plans, if more people are actually getting covered?